Question re: Echoes of Honor

[Geoffrey Garrett]

I know it's been a while since this book came out, but this question is
still rattling around in my brain. When Yanakov tells his ships "The
order is -- Lady Harrington, and no mercy!" what exactly does "no
mercy" mean? I get that "no quarter" means to take no prisoners, and is
an illegal order, but does "no mercy" have a particular meaning beyond
"kill anything that doesn't surrender"? Which would be the normal
objective in a battle, I would think....

[Don Sample]

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[pyotr filipivich]

Post by Geoffrey Garrett
I know it's been a while since this book came out, but this question is
still rattling around in my brain. When Yanakov tells his ships "The
order is -- Lady Harrington, and no mercy!" what exactly does "no
mercy" mean? I get that "no quarter" means to take no prisoners, and is
an illegal order, but does "no mercy" have a particular meaning beyond
"kill anything that doesn't surrender"? Which would be the normal
objective in a battle, I would think....

No quarter is "take no prisoners"

No mercy is just that, beat on them like a rented step-child,
pound em like they're your brother in laws bongos, clean their clocks
and hit them so hard their kids will be born dizzy.
Basically, the Grayson were out for revenge, there was to be no
"mercy" when it came to targeting - hit everything with "plenty". This
was not a fire pattern which sought to inflict a "mission kill" - this
was intending to destroy an enemy's fleet, and with it, Tester
willing, his will to fight.

But once they are out of action, then we will take prisoners.
Somebody has to live to tell the tale.

-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.

[Doug Jones]

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 02:39:55 -0700, pyotr filipivich

Post by pyotr filipivich

Post by Geoffrey Garrett
I know it's been a while since this book came out, but this question is
still rattling around in my brain. When Yanakov tells his ships "The
order is -- Lady Harrington, and no mercy!" what exactly does "no
mercy" mean? I get that "no quarter" means to take no prisoners, and is
an illegal order, but does "no mercy" have a particular meaning beyond
"kill anything that doesn't surrender"? Which would be the normal
objective in a battle, I would think....

No quarter is "take no prisoners"
No mercy is just that, beat on them like a rented step-child,
pound em like they're your brother in laws bongos, clean their clocks
and hit them so hard their kids will be born dizzy.
Basically, the Grayson were out for revenge, there was to be no
"mercy" when it came to targeting - hit everything with "plenty". This
was not a fire pattern which sought to inflict a "mission kill" - this
was intending to destroy an enemy's fleet, and with it, Tester
willing, his will to fight.
But once they are out of action, then we will take prisoners.
Somebody has to live to tell the tale.
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.

There's also White Haven's reaction to it, which helps explain what
Weber meant by Yanakov's order. "Normal" in battle is if a ship is
badly damaged, and moving away from the battle - pulling out of the
line, you let it go. "No mercy" means that unless you're damned well
obviously surrendering, we're still going to shoot at you until you're
either destroyed or putting up that white flag - now.

[deowll]

Post by Doug Jones
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 02:39:55 -0700, pyotr filipivich

Post by pyotr filipivich

Post by Geoffrey Garrett
I know it's been a while since this book came out, but this question is
still rattling around in my brain. When Yanakov tells his ships "The
order is -- Lady Harrington, and no mercy!" what exactly does "no
mercy" mean? I get that "no quarter" means to take no prisoners, and is
an illegal order, but does "no mercy" have a particular meaning beyond
"kill anything that doesn't surrender"? Which would be the normal
objective in a battle, I would think....

No quarter is "take no prisoners"
No mercy is just that, beat on them like a rented step-child,
pound em like they're your brother in laws bongos, clean their clocks
and hit them so hard their kids will be born dizzy.
Basically, the Grayson were out for revenge, there was to be no
"mercy" when it came to targeting - hit everything with "plenty". This
was not a fire pattern which sought to inflict a "mission kill" - this
was intending to destroy an enemy's fleet, and with it, Tester
willing, his will to fight.
But once they are out of action, then we will take prisoners.
Somebody has to live to tell the tale.
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.

There's also White Haven's reaction to it, which helps explain what
Weber meant by Yanakov's order. "Normal" in battle is if a ship is
badly damaged, and moving away from the battle - pulling out of the
line, you let it go. "No mercy" means that unless you're damned well
obviously surrendering, we're still going to shoot at you until you're
either destroyed or putting up that white flag - now.

I think you have summed it up very well. Shoot to kill. If they haven't
clearly surrendered blow them away ASAP. Don't let anyone escape.

[pyotr filipivich]

Post by deowll

Post by Doug Jones
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 02:39:55 -0700, pyotr filipivich

Post by pyotr filipivich

Post by Geoffrey Garrett
I know it's been a while since this book came out, but this question is
still rattling around in my brain. When Yanakov tells his ships "The
order is -- Lady Harrington, and no mercy!" what exactly does "no
mercy" mean? I get that "no quarter" means to take no prisoners, and is
an illegal order, but does "no mercy" have a particular meaning beyond
"kill anything that doesn't surrender"? Which would be the normal
objective in a battle, I would think....

No quarter is "take no prisoners"
No mercy is just that, beat on them like a rented step-child,
pound em like they're your brother in laws bongos, clean their clocks
and hit them so hard their kids will be born dizzy.
Basically, the Grayson were out for revenge, there was to be no
"mercy" when it came to targeting - hit everything with "plenty". This
was not a fire pattern which sought to inflict a "mission kill" - this
was intending to destroy an enemy's fleet, and with it, Tester
willing, his will to fight.
But once they are out of action, then we will take prisoners.
Somebody has to live to tell the tale.
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.

There's also White Haven's reaction to it, which helps explain what
Weber meant by Yanakov's order. "Normal" in battle is if a ship is
badly damaged, and moving away from the battle - pulling out of the
line, you let it go. "No mercy" means that unless you're damned well
obviously surrendering, we're still going to shoot at you until you're
either destroyed or putting up that white flag - now.

I think you have summed it up very well. Shoot to kill. If they haven't
clearly surrendered blow them away ASAP. Don't let anyone escape.

"Kill the enemy before they can escape or surrender!" I can't
remember who said that, or something like that. Probably Patton, but
...


pyotr

-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.

[Geoffrey Garrett]

Post by pyotr filipivich

Post by deowll

Post by Doug Jones
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 02:39:55 -0700, pyotr filipivich

Post by pyotr filipivich

Post by Geoffrey Garrett
I know it's been a while since this book came out, but this question is
still rattling around in my brain. When Yanakov tells his ships "The
order is -- Lady Harrington, and no mercy!" what exactly does "no
mercy" mean? I get that "no quarter" means to take no prisoners, and is
an illegal order, but does "no mercy" have a particular meaning beyond
"kill anything that doesn't surrender"? Which would be the normal
objective in a battle, I would think....

No quarter is "take no prisoners"
No mercy is just that, beat on them like a rented step-child,
pound em like they're your brother in laws bongos, clean their clocks
and hit them so hard their kids will be born dizzy.
Basically, the Grayson were out for revenge, there was to be no
"mercy" when it came to targeting - hit everything with "plenty". This
was not a fire pattern which sought to inflict a "mission kill" - this
was intending to destroy an enemy's fleet, and with it, Tester
willing, his will to fight.
But once they are out of action, then we will take prisoners.
Somebody has to live to tell the tale.
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.

There's also White Haven's reaction to it, which helps explain what
Weber meant by Yanakov's order. "Normal" in battle is if a ship is
badly damaged, and moving away from the battle - pulling out of the
line, you let it go. "No mercy" means that unless you're damned well
obviously surrendering, we're still going to shoot at you until you're
either destroyed or putting up that white flag - now.

I think you have summed it up very well. Shoot to kill. If they haven't
clearly surrendered blow them away ASAP. Don't let anyone escape.

"Kill the enemy before they can escape or surrender!" I can't
remember who said that, or something like that. Probably Patton, but
...
pyotr
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.

ROFL. Thanks, all, for the answers. Greatly appreciated.