deowll
2010-04-10 04:51:57 UTC
DW warned us Manticore was going to get hurt badly. Okay they have twice but
is the pain over?
The navel sorts now think that if the raiders return they can drop in a
bunch of ships on the hyper footprint to find them then take them out. That
might very well be true of the limited number of spider ships used in the
last raid.
What if a couple of dozen or even a hundred Sharks show up? When the
Manticore ships appear the Sharks are just going to open fire if the
Manticore ships are in range and if they are using the steath drive missiles
I'm not sure that the Manticore ship will see a thing until the missile let
go. This means their defense is going to be worse than that of SLN if that
is possible.
The Alignment's new missile grazer head should tear apart anything less than
a waller. It has a cruiser beam that stayes on for 3 seconds. I'm not sure
that can get through a Manticore SD(P) sidewall or the front and bum
shielding now being used but the lesser ships are going to get riped wide
open as in completely gutted. On the other hand conventional warheads should
work well enough against the side walls of a SD(P) if there is_ no defense_
and if they can't detect the blinking missile I don't see how they can have
a defense.
The problem is that the navies of this universe appear to be largely
dependent on seeing a wedge to know something is there as DW is now playing
it. If you don't see a wedge everything is more or less invisible and you
don't even know anything is coming. There was obviously no active scanning
going on before the last attack. The system defense didn't know the grazer
missiles were there until after they fired and by then it was much to late.
Some conventional missiles were used I think to make up the numbers but
after being caught flat footed the defense didn't work here either. A war
ship in battle mode should at least be able to use point defense here and a
wedge drive would give away the location of the launch site which might not
be the location of the Shark any more.
In other words nobody is actually using active scanning or not nearly enough
of it. I'm not sure what the range limits are on active scanning but if you
used a really big atennia and put the power of a nuclear pile behind it you
ought to have a fair amount of reach. Of course nobody is going to have any
trouble detecting this broadcast10,000 light years away but that's a
different problem.
Does anyone see any holes in my train of thought? If there aren't Maticore's
pants are still at half mast and they aren't even feeling the breeze and
nobody else anywhere has noticed.
(Yes I know everything should be wide open to an unexpected long range
kenetic strike but they can see a missile wedge from one side of a system to
the other at least so they don't expect to get caught flat footed even
though space platforms, moons, and planets would be hopeless vulnerable to
such strikes as DW just represented them in Mission of Honor. You see a
wedge you get protection. If you don't see a wedge and somebody has a drive
that still works you get slammed.)
is the pain over?
The navel sorts now think that if the raiders return they can drop in a
bunch of ships on the hyper footprint to find them then take them out. That
might very well be true of the limited number of spider ships used in the
last raid.
What if a couple of dozen or even a hundred Sharks show up? When the
Manticore ships appear the Sharks are just going to open fire if the
Manticore ships are in range and if they are using the steath drive missiles
I'm not sure that the Manticore ship will see a thing until the missile let
go. This means their defense is going to be worse than that of SLN if that
is possible.
The Alignment's new missile grazer head should tear apart anything less than
a waller. It has a cruiser beam that stayes on for 3 seconds. I'm not sure
that can get through a Manticore SD(P) sidewall or the front and bum
shielding now being used but the lesser ships are going to get riped wide
open as in completely gutted. On the other hand conventional warheads should
work well enough against the side walls of a SD(P) if there is_ no defense_
and if they can't detect the blinking missile I don't see how they can have
a defense.
The problem is that the navies of this universe appear to be largely
dependent on seeing a wedge to know something is there as DW is now playing
it. If you don't see a wedge everything is more or less invisible and you
don't even know anything is coming. There was obviously no active scanning
going on before the last attack. The system defense didn't know the grazer
missiles were there until after they fired and by then it was much to late.
Some conventional missiles were used I think to make up the numbers but
after being caught flat footed the defense didn't work here either. A war
ship in battle mode should at least be able to use point defense here and a
wedge drive would give away the location of the launch site which might not
be the location of the Shark any more.
In other words nobody is actually using active scanning or not nearly enough
of it. I'm not sure what the range limits are on active scanning but if you
used a really big atennia and put the power of a nuclear pile behind it you
ought to have a fair amount of reach. Of course nobody is going to have any
trouble detecting this broadcast10,000 light years away but that's a
different problem.
Does anyone see any holes in my train of thought? If there aren't Maticore's
pants are still at half mast and they aren't even feeling the breeze and
nobody else anywhere has noticed.
(Yes I know everything should be wide open to an unexpected long range
kenetic strike but they can see a missile wedge from one side of a system to
the other at least so they don't expect to get caught flat footed even
though space platforms, moons, and planets would be hopeless vulnerable to
such strikes as DW just represented them in Mission of Honor. You see a
wedge you get protection. If you don't see a wedge and somebody has a drive
that still works you get slammed.)